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REQ: Heathkit Transistor ID

Hello,

I have a Heathkit clock model GC-1005 which is having display problems that I
think may be due to bad transistors.  I’ve been able to identify 2 of the 3
transistor types used but am stumped on the 3rd.  I don’t have a manual yet
(one is ordered) but I would like to get this part identified a.s.a.p.

The transistors in question are probably PNP, appear to be anode HV drivers
for the multiplexed neon readouts.  They’re marked: "417295" (this
probably=Heathkit P/N "417-295") then below that "M224".  The "M" looks like
the Motorola logo.  I have searched the internet and found nothing useful
under any of those numbers or {Motorola and 224}.

TIA


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Alan "A.J." Franzman

Email: a.j.franzman at verizon dot net

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Comments (8)




8 Responses to “REQ: Heathkit Transistor ID”

  1. admin says:

    Hi,

       Try this –

       http://www.d8apro.com/heath3.htm

       Cheers – Joe

  2. admin says:

    In article <Q5onb.19379$Ui3.2…@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
    a.j.franz…@null.com.invalid mentioned…

    > Hello,

    > I have a Heathkit clock model GC-1005 which is having display problems that I
    > think may be due to bad transistors.  I’ve been able to identify 2 of the 3
    > transistor types used but am stumped on the 3rd.  I don’t have a manual yet
    > (one is ordered) but I would like to get this part identified a.s.a.p.

    > The transistors in question are probably PNP, appear to be anode HV drivers
    > for the multiplexed neon readouts.  They’re marked: "417295" (this
    > probably=Heathkit P/N "417-295") then below that "M224".  The "M" looks like
    > the Motorola logo.  I have searched the internet and found nothing useful
    > under any of those numbers or {Motorola and 224}.

    > TIA

    Here’s what the Heath Xref says:

    Heath      Generic    Alter-     Alter-     Description    
    P/N          P/N      nate 1     nate 2

    417-295    MPSL51     2N5400     2N5401     PNP 100V 600mA TO-92

    Another alternate might be the MPS-A92.
    BTW, I thought the 2N5400, 5401 were NPNs(?)


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  3. admin says:

    "Watson A.Name – Watt Sun, Dark Remover" wrote:

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    > In article <Q5onb.19379$Ui3.2…@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
    > a.j.franz…@null.com.invalid mentioned…
    > > Hello,

    > > I have a Heathkit clock model GC-1005 which is having display problems that I
    > > think may be due to bad transistors.  I’ve been able to identify 2 of the 3
    > > transistor types used but am stumped on the 3rd.  I don’t have a manual yet
    > > (one is ordered) but I would like to get this part identified a.s.a.p.

    > > The transistors in question are probably PNP, appear to be anode HV drivers
    > > for the multiplexed neon readouts.  They’re marked: "417295" (this
    > > probably=Heathkit P/N "417-295") then below that "M224".  The "M" looks like
    > > the Motorola logo.  I have searched the internet and found nothing useful
    > > under any of those numbers or {Motorola and 224}.

    > > TIA

    > Here’s what the Heath Xref says:

    > Heath      Generic    Alter-     Alter-     Description
    > P/N          P/N      nate 1     nate 2

    > 417-295    MPSL51     2N5400     2N5401     PNP 100V 600mA TO-92

    > Another alternate might be the MPS-A92.
    > BTW, I thought the 2N5400, 5401 were NPNs(?)

    Nope! According to Motorola, they are high voltage PNP silicon amplifier
    transistors:

    2N5400 Vceo 120 Volts Vcb 130 Volts Veb 5.0 Volts Ic 600 mAdc Pd 310 mW
    2N5401 Vceo 150 Volts Vcb 160 Volts Veb 5.0 Volts Ic 600 mAdc Pd 310 mW

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida

  4. admin says:

    In article <3F9FEB5D.BBF27…@earthlink.net>,
    mike.terr…@earthlink.net mentioned…

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    > "Watson A.Name – Watt Sun, Dark Remover" wrote:

    > > In article <Q5onb.19379$Ui3.2…@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
    > > a.j.franz…@null.com.invalid mentioned…
    > > > Hello,

    > > > I have a Heathkit clock model GC-1005 which is having display problems that I
    > > > think may be due to bad transistors.  I’ve been able to identify 2 of the 3
    > > > transistor types used but am stumped on the 3rd.  I don’t have a manual yet
    > > > (one is ordered) but I would like to get this part identified a.s.a.p.

    > > > The transistors in question are probably PNP, appear to be anode HV drivers
    > > > for the multiplexed neon readouts.  They’re marked: "417295" (this
    > > > probably=Heathkit P/N "417-295") then below that "M224".  The "M" looks like
    > > > the Motorola logo.  I have searched the internet and found nothing useful
    > > > under any of those numbers or {Motorola and 224}.

    > > > TIA

    > > Here’s what the Heath Xref says:

    > > Heath      Generic    Alter-     Alter-     Description
    > > P/N          P/N      nate 1     nate 2

    > > 417-295    MPSL51     2N5400     2N5401     PNP 100V 600mA TO-92

    > > Another alternate might be the MPS-A92.
    > > BTW, I thought the 2N5400, 5401 were NPNs(?)

    > Nope! According to Motorola, they are high voltage PNP silicon amplifier
    > transistors:

    > 2N5400 Vceo 120 Volts Vcb 130 Volts Veb 5.0 Volts Ic 600 mAdc Pd 310 mW
    > 2N5401 Vceo 150 Volts Vcb 160 Volts Veb 5.0 Volts Ic 600 mAdc Pd 310 mW

    Hokay, my boo-boo.  ;-)  


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  5. admin says:

    "Watson A.Name – Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra…@hotmail.com> wrote in
    message
    <news:MPG.1a0a2c83ccc5d15098986a@news.dslextreme.com>:

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    > In article <3F9FEB5D.BBF27…@earthlink.net>,
    > mike.terr…@earthlink.net mentioned…
    >> "Watson A.Name – Watt Sun, Dark Remover" wrote:

    >>> In article <Q5onb.19379$Ui3.2…@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
    >>> a.j.franz…@null.com.invalid mentioned…
    >>>> Hello,

    >>>> I have a Heathkit clock model GC-1005 which is having display problems
    >>>> that I think may be due to bad transistors.  I’ve been able to identify
    >>>> 2 of the 3 transistor types used but am stumped on the 3rd.  I don’t
    >>>> have a manual yet (one is ordered) but I would like to get this part
    >>>> identified a.s.a.p.

    >>>> The transistors in question are probably PNP, appear to be anode HV
    >>>> drivers for the multiplexed neon readouts.  They’re marked: "417295"
    >>>> (this probably=Heathkit P/N "417-295") then below that "M224".  The "M"
    >>>> looks like the Motorola logo.  I have searched the internet and found
    >>>> nothing useful under any of those numbers or {Motorola and 224}.

    >>>> TIA

    >>> Here’s what the Heath Xref says:

    >>> Heath      Generic    Alter-     Alter-     Description
    >>> P/N          P/N      nate 1     nate 2

    >>> 417-295    MPSL51     2N5400     2N5401     PNP 100V 600mA TO-92

    >>> Another alternate might be the MPS-A92.
    >>> BTW, I thought the 2N5400, 5401 were NPNs(?)

    >> Nope! According to Motorola, they are high voltage PNP silicon amplifier
    >> transistors:

    >> 2N5400 Vceo 120 Volts Vcb 130 Volts Veb 5.0 Volts Ic 600 mAdc Pd 310 mW
    >> 2N5401 Vceo 150 Volts Vcb 160 Volts Veb 5.0 Volts Ic 600 mAdc Pd 310 mW

    > Hokay, my boo-boo.  ;-)

    No problem!

    Thanks to all who helped!


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    Alan "A.J." Franzman

    Email: a.j.franzman at verizon dot net

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  6. admin says:

    "Watson A.Name – Watt Sun, Dark Remover" wrote:

    > Hokay, my boo-boo.  ;-)

      I can’t remember them all, either, so I keep the old Motorola Databook
    by my computer desk. I am slowly building an on line quick reference for
    older 2N transistors. The first couple pages are up, but there are
    hundreds more to go.

    http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/2N-Index.html is the entry
    point. As I have time I will enter more data. I started with the oldest
    numbers, because there is little or no information on line for these
    parts.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida

  7. admin says:

    Michael A. Terrell wrote:
    > "Watson A.Name – Watt Sun, Dark Remover" wrote:

    >>Hokay, my boo-boo.  ;-)

    >   I can’t remember them all, either, so I keep the old Motorola Databook
    > by my computer desk. I am slowly building an on line quick reference for
    > older 2N transistors. The first couple pages are up, but there are
    > hundreds more to go.

    > http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/2N-Index.html is the entry
    > point. As I have time I will enter more data. I started with the oldest
    > numbers, because there is little or no information on line for these
    > parts.

    Cool.  But which Moto databook are you using?  If it’s the same as mine,
    like 1969, then I could help, if I only knew how to input the data and
    format it.


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    "Watson A.Name \"Watt Sun – the Dark Remover\"" wrote:

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    > Michael A. Terrell wrote:

    > > "Watson A.Name – Watt Sun, Dark Remover" wrote:

    > >>Hokay, my boo-boo.  ;-)

    > >   I can’t remember them all, either, so I keep the old Motorola Databook
    > > by my computer desk. I am slowly building an on line quick reference for
    > > older 2N transistors. The first couple pages are up, but there are
    > > hundreds more to go.

    > > http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/2N-Index.html is the entry
    > > point. As I have time I will enter more data. I started with the oldest
    > > numbers, because there is little or no information on line for these
    > > parts.

    > Cool.  But which Moto databook are you using?  If it’s the same as mine,
    > like 1969, then I could help, if I only knew how to input the data and
    > format it.

       Its simple HTML code. Save a page and look at it in Wordpad, or
    another text editor. I just copy and paste a new line for each part.
    that way the HTML code is a lot smaller than using A HTML editing
    program. There is nothing fancy, other than the code for the headers. If
    you want to try it, download the second page, and try entering some of
    the missing part numbers and data, then email it to me as an attachment.
    I’ll check it, then post it to the site. If you, or anyone else want to
    help, I’ll list your names on the index page for the parts as a
    contributor to the project. If you want to preview it as HTML on your
    computer you need to download 2N.css and color.css to see the page the
    same as it appears on the web site.

       I would appreciate any help I can get. I am trying to get a used low
    vision reading system. A friend of mine died recently, and his widow has
    to make sure the VA doesn’t want it back before I can have it. The print
    in the Motorola books is so small it gives me headaches. I can only do a
    half dozen parts at a time right now, so it takes a long time to add a
    new page. After a page is complete, I create a PDF file, and change the
    line from "2N Transistors", to "2Nxxx to 2Nxxx PDF" so that page can be
    downloaded and printed in B&W

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida